Two of Indonesia’s listed corporate champions get candid about what ‘transformation’ really looks like when you’re already operating at national scale, and every change has to work in the real world, not just on a slide. Blue Bird will share how a mobility incumbent evolves into a multi-channel platform: partnering with digital ecosystems, digitising operations end-to-end, and pushing sustainability initiatives such as Indonesia’s first e-taxi rollout, all while protecting service reliability and brand trust. Samator Indo Gas (AGII) brings the perspective of essential infrastructure: industrial and medical gases with a nationwide footprint, a business that was stress-tested during the oxygen crunch, and a forward capex agenda that includes a low-carbon hydrogen plant. The discussion then turns practical for investors and strategic partners: where private capital can genuinely ‘plug in’ to accelerate execution – fleet and project financing, digital platforms, energy-transition infrastructure, and adjacent services – and what it takes to make those partnerships work – alignment on incentives, governance, and return hurdles.